tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post8118861826827192446..comments2024-03-18T18:19:19.002-07:00Comments on bylogos: Did God Create a Multiverse?john bylhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05766117392831032432noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-62364830886880599362018-03-16T02:49:27.840-07:002018-03-16T02:49:27.840-07:00"all parallel universes will intersect at one..."all parallel universes will intersect at one point when the earth is destroyed".. You are right about the first part,(the intersection of all possibilities), but I do believe that the time for that is not the issue, the time itself is an illusion in our minds that was created in our (universe) but in God realm there is no time, so life is about trying to get closer to our optimum existence scenario and by being existing (at the same time) in parallel universes with different life scenarios (all at the same time) we are transcending up to the intersection of all possibilities and towards God's scenario. (Finally I am not sure that I am right), good day to all of you Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10836552667272911842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-71799870525197852342018-02-02T12:48:45.123-08:002018-02-02T12:48:45.123-08:00I would disagree. God did allow us to have free wi...I would disagree. God did allow us to have free will, in a sense. Did Peter have free will to deny Jesus. Yes! But Jesus didn't tell Peter about his denial as if it were a POSSIBLE future. He prophesied his denial as an ENIVITABLE future. To say that we could make a choice that would throw God's plan off kilter would be to basically throw several books of the bible away. If there was anyone in this existence who would take advantage of being able to change the ultimate outcome it would be Satan. Although he has tried and continues to try, he has yet to succeed and my bible says he never will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-90871532815591245362018-02-02T12:44:41.138-08:002018-02-02T12:44:41.138-08:00To the last question, because the "heavens&qu...To the last question, because the "heavens" or space declare the birthing of new systems. EVERY star in the sky sheds off planets (for the most part) it's part of the birth of a star depending on it's size. Now whether there is life on said planets...that I cannot say, but there ARE other systems and other galaxy's out there. Astronomy has come a long way in proving that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-68613081731858886002017-05-15T18:55:31.059-07:002017-05-15T18:55:31.059-07:00I would like to argue your points politely, please...I would like to argue your points politely, please refer to the numbers you left above:<br /><br />"1. First, it depends on a particular interpretation of quantum mechanics. There are other interpretations--equally well satisfying the observational data--that do not involve world splits." Each interpretation, then, is equally satisfying, if observational data cannot prove it or support it (and we do not have any observational data to support or deny parallel worlds, for lack of better terms.<br /><br />"2. Second, it assumes that everything in the universe is entirely material and, further, that all material properties can be completely expressed in terms of quantum mechanics. Such reductive materialism has no place for a conscious mind, or a human soul. Nor is there any room for angels or demons. This restricted view of reality contradicts both common sense and Scripture." That is a simplification of what was said, in my humble opinion. God can do anything; it is possible that He made our soul to exist in all dimensions/worlds we are born in, and that we are not conscious of these other worlds, but at the resurrection of the body and the return of Christ, we will become conscious of them, and all our consciousnesses will come together, or possibly at our death.<br /><br />"3. Third, it entails multiple human incarnations of Jesus Christ. It is already difficult for us to conceive of Christ having two natures--human and divine. Yet Christ must now encompass numerous human natures, each having a separate consciousness." This is again simplifying God and logic. God does not have to have a separate consciousness; He can do anything. He could have very well come down as Jesus in the same consciousness in each world, because He is well aware of everything happening in every world at every moment.<br /><br />I don't mean to be disrespectful in any way, but I would just like to point out that if God can make something out of nothing, He can do other impossible things, too. God bless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-13845738061867055422017-02-20T04:36:50.194-08:002017-02-20T04:36:50.194-08:00“Redeemed members of the human species are creatur...“Redeemed members of the human species are creatures of multiple realities. In our humanity, like everyone else of the human race, we are (as Jesus put it) in the world. It is a reality of space and time. We interact with the people and events around about us. We read the news and receive media reports. We are pressured by the factors of this reality. But living also in Christ’s reality (in The Kingdom of Heaven) we are in contact with the reality that is invisible to this world – the reality which controls everything. We exist on the rim between the two. Jesus knew this and the necessity for daily withdrawal into prayer so that we may connect with The Father. For us then, with The Holy Spirit residing both in us and The Kingdom, prayer becomes the necessary connection to our home – the very source of our existence.<br /> ”<br /><br />Excerpt From: Mike Stair. “On Earth As It Is In Heaven.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/DZeA8.lmstairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180972562162623432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-76515248847649337062017-02-19T19:39:45.099-08:002017-02-19T19:39:45.099-08:00John Lennox sums up the somewhat humorous situatio...John Lennox sums up the somewhat humorous situation this way:<br /><br />“It is rather ironical that in the sixteenth century some people resisted advances in science because they seemed to threaten belief in God; whereas in the twentieth century scientific ideas of a beginning have been resisted because they threatened to increase the plausibility of belief in God.”<br /><br />Why is our universe here and so fine tuned for life? Why does it look, as some scientists admit, like “a put up job”? St. Augustine gives us the answer: “Out of nothing didst Thou create heaven and earth--a great thing and a small--because Thou are Almighty and Good, to make all things good, even the great heaven and the small earth. Thou wast, and there was nought else from which Thou didst create heaven and earth.”2 --via CARM.org. Excellent article, and well stated. @anonymous, dimensionality is not what you may be thinking. This idea may be more convenient than true. Try to look up some writers on the idea of Christians holding to the multiverse, namely anything discussing the "Library of Babylon" problem. You might find it interesting and challenging. "It is time for Christians to speak. It has always been time." #christian #letstalktheology #theologymatters<br />http://wp.me/p818ij-7B Critical Mass: Multiverse theory and the problem with philosophical deference. MatthewClaybrook.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00415634249716600876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-81558977902625297472017-02-14T16:54:54.453-08:002017-02-14T16:54:54.453-08:00I would think this is possible. there are obviousl...I would think this is possible. there are obviously other dimensions, heaven and hell being some. parallel universes can exist, and i think they're generated as a way for God to show the possible outcomes of the decisions of man, as we have free will. I also think that all parallel universes will intersect at one point when the earth is destroyed and the tribulation is complete, and all the universes will have the same outcome of God's plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-36090863401444478212017-01-22T03:43:24.721-08:002017-01-22T03:43:24.721-08:00The only way God would know the outcome of every c...The only way God would know the outcome of every choice we make would be that God can see the out come of every choice we did make. In other words all has happened and all has been seen. <br /><br />To put it simply, when God gave us choice it created a dual reality where at some point we would choose a way different then what God gave us there by creating a chain of events where multiple choices were made and continued to grow over time. However like fractured light, one incident remained constant in every alternate reality created and there by focused all paths into one ultimate outcome. <br />I am sure you can figure out what incident led to one final outcome. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173607560304614433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-26132183467537169642017-01-22T03:35:41.448-08:002017-01-22T03:35:41.448-08:00I know like the theory of other life in the univer...I know like the theory of other life in the universe. The bible clearly states that there are only humans and angels. So the only thing that matters is in our solar system. How do they even know there is anything else besides our solar system?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173607560304614433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-10273445023956685832016-12-04T17:10:24.437-08:002016-12-04T17:10:24.437-08:00Hi... I have two points...
1- I think if we do acc...Hi... I have two points...<br />1- I think if we do accept that Multivers do exist, then we might be failing to accept that GOD has A global plan and '' sub plans '' for each of us that fit into thé global plan. Now if Multivers do exist it means thé plan of GOD is actually a very dynamic one in which everyone can décidé what his '' sub plan'' Will look like, making GOD'S global plan a disfigured one. Also that means Jeremiah 29v11 is going to be so fluctuating because if the person on whom GOD placed Mr X or Mr Y joy, décides to créat an alternative time Line obviously à new possible outcome then thé plan of GOD won't Côme to pass, but given that GODs plans must be fullfilled then thé Level 3 idea Will be very dangerous. Also It means Adam and Eve could décidé to créat an alternative time Line and thé course of humanity could just be différent in that alternative time Line... Making GOD not thé one with thé last Word but actually us thé humans by création of alternative possibilities... But I know GOD is the master of all, Hé who lives out of time, Hé has à unic plan in which we all fall in. 2-Its true sometimes I think actually GOD made à complexe Algorithme that we follow. Kind of if X does this or that this is the parallèle universe hé is gonna générate and because of that this is the future that Will be resulting from that and if Y does that or this ,this is the parallèle universe created and this is the outcome. And that thought usually made and makes me just Marvel at GODs mathematical power. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-32912246602795635742016-11-30T20:00:32.902-08:002016-11-30T20:00:32.902-08:00I believe we exist in the mind of God. I assume th...I believe we exist in the mind of God. I assume the mind of God is infinite, and in it there is a tiny, little, minute thought that we call the Universe, which is where we exist. God holds all existence together in His thoughts, in His imagination per se. I think it is hard for people to wrap their minds around the fact that our universe is not as solid, or "physical", as it seems to our senses. I am typing this comment on my iPhone right now, but scientific experiments have shown that 99.9999% of matter is comprised of empty space and the remainder is energy, which is invisible and structureless. Quite a solid universe we live in, isn't it? I remember studying quantum mechanics in college and learning that there is a minute probability that my hand will go through the keyboard every time I type in it. Thus, my iPhone does not really exist, neither does my body, or my brain, my car, my wife, my favorite food, the toilet seat I am using right now, or you (the reader), at least not physically, albeit as a mental construction somehow. This is a hard concept to wrap our minds around and some people just can't accept it, despite the overwhelming scientific evidence. This also questions our personal perspective on everything in life, regarding what is truly important as well as the purpose of our existence. Anyway, regardless of the scientific findings, my family was involved in witchcraft in Brazil for decades, so I've seen too much with my own eyes to not believe in God. Our life was a mess till we invited Jesus to clean it up. If you had seen what my family and I experienced first hand, you would believe in God too, hands down, and there would be no philosophical argument that would turn you into an atheist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-76329757808886695052016-06-30T03:24:28.169-07:002016-06-30T03:24:28.169-07:00Scientists do have evidence - the existing observa...Scientists do have evidence - the existing observations of how the physical world actually works, and the maths derived from that. You are correct to say it is essentially a species of speculation, but its firmly based on extrapolation from hard evidence and is ultimately intended to produce experimentally verifiable results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-53456239119997939882016-06-26T08:57:46.079-07:002016-06-26T08:57:46.079-07:00Heaven is another universe.Heaven is another universe.Seaearth ponyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582765918943640894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-91958749717641745752016-05-16T04:37:48.507-07:002016-05-16T04:37:48.507-07:00“From the divine perspective, the entropic timelin...“From the divine perspective, the entropic timeline of this reality is the experiential delay that our consciousness must pass through. But is it our exclusive reality? Of the two current lines of thought in quantum physics (reality as a single universe, or multiple realities in multiple universes) the Bible would seem to promote the second as much as the first. <br /> The Bible is certainly replete with support for the single universe theory. Its treatment of historical stories and characters is a rich lesson in how the passage of time forms and alters the character and environment of humans. The theophanies, miracles, visions, fantastic descriptions and conflicting verb tenses, however, also support the existence of a universe very different from the one we easily observe.”<br /><br />Excerpt From: Mike Stair. “On Earth As It Is In Heaven.” iBooks. https://itun.es/us/DZeA8.lmstairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02180972562162623432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-28704772841434420012015-10-25T23:57:45.792-07:002015-10-25T23:57:45.792-07:00I don't know that God just died for people'...I don't know that God just died for people's sins, but not aliens. I would have to disagree that alien subject.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03534546001192608139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-57964591665812336852013-01-28T11:28:16.311-08:002013-01-28T11:28:16.311-08:00Hi Greg
You are quite correct--the multiverse hyp...Hi Greg<br /><br />You are quite correct--the multiverse hypothesis is based on a number of unverifiable speculations. The multiverse tries to account for the fine-tuning of our universe. But we are still left with the questions of the origin and design of the multiverse.john bylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05766117392831032432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-19548720971260113052013-01-26T21:52:20.470-08:002013-01-26T21:52:20.470-08:00Dr. Byl, can the multiverse even get off the groun...Dr. Byl, can the multiverse even get off the ground in the first place? I mean appealing to a quantum fluctuation as what created the universe falls short for a couple of really horrible flaws, doesn't it? One, it has to assume the energy of the entire universe is a net of zero and there is surely no way to know that. Two, a quantum fluctuation has to have space to work. Thus space would have to pop into existence first in order for a quantum fluctuation to happen. Isn't this true?QuantumGreghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07410047060125951426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-56255346878200673522013-01-18T12:25:49.670-08:002013-01-18T12:25:49.670-08:00Hi Mark
Many scientists claim the multiverse noti...Hi Mark<br /><br />Many scientists claim the multiverse notion arises naturally from scientific considerations in string theory, inflation, quantum theory and the like. George Ellis, in the review I cited, concludes it is <i>“scientifically based philosophical speculation”</i>. <br /><br />I don't believe that the motivation for the multiverse hypothesis can be attributed completely to a desire to avoid God. For example, the Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics (Level 3 Multiverse) was advanced to avoid the problem of collapsing the wave function.john bylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05766117392831032432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-9918212307959371132013-01-18T09:49:54.718-08:002013-01-18T09:49:54.718-08:00I think that these are more philosophical question...I think that these are more philosophical questions than scientific. The question of a multiverse arises when, in philosophical discussion, we consider predestination vs. foreknowledge. Free will, or divine orchestration. Does God control every outcome, our simply have a foreknowledge of every possible event in every possible world?<br />The only reason that this question exists in the scientific community is to offer a teleological argument that doesn't involve God. <br />Mark ten Haafnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-44694689400108693142013-01-15T20:21:42.494-08:002013-01-15T20:21:42.494-08:00Well said, Jim Pemberton.Well said, Jim Pemberton.c.t.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02287685119108815245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3772414331480635861.post-74400383100918506142013-01-14T11:38:36.477-08:002013-01-14T11:38:36.477-08:00It's interesting that scientists make speculat...It's interesting that scientists make speculations with no evidence and people call it science who say there's not enough evidence to believe the Bible. And then we have theologians, for whatever reason, speculate against theological problems that these speculations of scientists might be compatible with the Bible. Are people insane?Jim Pembertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446388434272680014noreply@blogger.com